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	<title>Comments on: Passing on the New Wowio Deal, here&#8217;s why</title>
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		<title>By: Tangent</title>
		<link>http://www.djcoffman.com/tikibar/2008/07/22/passing-on-the-new-wowio-deal-heres-why/comment-page-1/#comment-2065</link>
		<dc:creator>Tangent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 23:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would you recommend people not bother downloading books and comics through Wowio then? Because if they&#039;re going to screw the people who supply material for download, why should we support them at all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you recommend people not bother downloading books and comics through Wowio then? Because if they&#8217;re going to screw the people who supply material for download, why should we support them at all?</p>
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		<title>By: wendybird</title>
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		<dc:creator>wendybird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 22:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just about to look into the Wowio option when it went down, and then I ran into all of this. I already have an account at Lulu where I sell the print copies and downloads. The downloads sell for 99 cents and I get about  fifty cents myself.

I figure if it won&#039;t be free to download, I might as well guarantee my fifty cents myself. People might be willing to pay, seeing as there are no ads. I could charge more and I&#039;d get every cent of that increase - but at this point I just want to get people reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just about to look into the Wowio option when it went down, and then I ran into all of this. I already have an account at Lulu where I sell the print copies and downloads. The downloads sell for 99 cents and I get about  fifty cents myself.</p>
<p>I figure if it won&#8217;t be free to download, I might as well guarantee my fifty cents myself. People might be willing to pay, seeing as there are no ads. I could charge more and I&#8217;d get every cent of that increase &#8211; but at this point I just want to get people reading.</p>
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		<title>By: chebbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>chebbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d suggest moving your work over to www.myebook.com it&#039;s much simpler and looks like it will eventually pay quite well too.

Chebbo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d suggest moving your work over to <a href="http://www.myebook.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.myebook.com</a> it&#8217;s much simpler and looks like it will eventually pay quite well too.</p>
<p>Chebbo</p>
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		<title>By: Fleen: Enjoy Our Semi-Abusive Opinion Mongering &#187; Friday Off To A Good Start</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fleen: Enjoy Our Semi-Abusive Opinion Mongering &#187; Friday Off To A Good Start</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] than DJ Coffman, I know of several publishers, including myself, that are displeased with the new deal and are [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ray Cornwall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Cornwall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 04:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;”When” Sponsors are available? What happens when sponsors aren’t available? That seems really vague. Who’s going to be in charge of getting sponsors now? Platinum?!? UGH.&quot;

To be fair, Wowio wasn&#039;t exactly pulling the sponsors in, either. Half of the 60 or so Wowio 1.0 books I have are sponsorless, and there were only four sponsors for the rest (Verizon&#039;s a nice sponsor, but Lifelock? Vonage? And some website that I can&#039;t recall...).

Of course, I doubt PlatinumWowio will initially do any better. And shutting the business down for a month can&#039;t help whatever momentum the business had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;”When” Sponsors are available? What happens when sponsors aren’t available? That seems really vague. Who’s going to be in charge of getting sponsors now? Platinum?!? UGH.&#8221;</p>
<p>To be fair, Wowio wasn&#8217;t exactly pulling the sponsors in, either. Half of the 60 or so Wowio 1.0 books I have are sponsorless, and there were only four sponsors for the rest (Verizon&#8217;s a nice sponsor, but Lifelock? Vonage? And some website that I can&#8217;t recall&#8230;).</p>
<p>Of course, I doubt PlatinumWowio will initially do any better. And shutting the business down for a month can&#8217;t help whatever momentum the business had.</p>
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		<title>By: Digital Strips: The Webcomics Podcast</title>
		<link>http://www.djcoffman.com/tikibar/2008/07/22/passing-on-the-new-wowio-deal-heres-why/comment-page-1/#comment-1857</link>
		<dc:creator>Digital Strips: The Webcomics Podcast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you know it? Former Platinum advocate and all-round chatty fella, DJ Coffman, has decided to pick apart the new agreement for Wowio distributors for everyone to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you know it? Former Platinum advocate and all-round chatty fella, DJ Coffman, has decided to pick apart the new agreement for Wowio distributors for everyone to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tiff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I called and spoke with them  (I wanted my voice heard and taken seriously by doing the call.) and the preview is mandatory.  They don&#039;t seem to understand why we don&#039;t like it.

I also got clarification on the sponsorships.  Now, you might be offered to choose a book to be downloaded for free sponsored by a company.  The sponsor won&#039;t choose the books, you choose the book and the ad is added.  If there is not a sponsor available for your download, you can set a price on it and get half the price.  

I&#039;m not that offended about the 50/50 cut if I raise the price and someone buy sit for the same amount as a print book.  That was that person&#039;s choice and I&#039;m not out anything more than I&#039;d pay a printer.

I am offended by the 80/20 split.

Strategies:  
Put a really high price on it to discourage purchases and encourage people to download when sponsorship is available.
Plaster your website URL on every single page and discourage people from reading it through Wowio. (That actually shouldn&#039;t be that big of an issue, since it wouldn&#039;t be the most current work anyway.)

I&#039;m considering sticking my foot in the door as a &#039;just in case move&#039; (in hopes that they would revise some of the contract if enough people complain), but having them remove all of my current books. :D 

I am still not trusting them to be around and pay in six months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I called and spoke with them  (I wanted my voice heard and taken seriously by doing the call.) and the preview is mandatory.  They don&#8217;t seem to understand why we don&#8217;t like it.</p>
<p>I also got clarification on the sponsorships.  Now, you might be offered to choose a book to be downloaded for free sponsored by a company.  The sponsor won&#8217;t choose the books, you choose the book and the ad is added.  If there is not a sponsor available for your download, you can set a price on it and get half the price.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not that offended about the 50/50 cut if I raise the price and someone buy sit for the same amount as a print book.  That was that person&#8217;s choice and I&#8217;m not out anything more than I&#8217;d pay a printer.</p>
<p>I am offended by the 80/20 split.</p>
<p>Strategies:<br />
Put a really high price on it to discourage purchases and encourage people to download when sponsorship is available.<br />
Plaster your website URL on every single page and discourage people from reading it through Wowio. (That actually shouldn&#8217;t be that big of an issue, since it wouldn&#8217;t be the most current work anyway.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m considering sticking my foot in the door as a &#8216;just in case move&#8217; (in hopes that they would revise some of the contract if enough people complain), but having them remove all of my current books. <img src='http://www.djcoffman.com/tikibar/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I am still not trusting them to be around and pay in six months.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One option that is always open to you: modify the contract, cross out the terms you don&#039;t like and add the other terms you think are necessary. Then send it back. We routinely do this with &#039;standard&#039; contracts these days, having been ripped off in the past. A contract is meant to indicate mutual agreement: if you don&#039;t agree with that one then just change it till you do. They can only say no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One option that is always open to you: modify the contract, cross out the terms you don&#8217;t like and add the other terms you think are necessary. Then send it back. We routinely do this with &#8217;standard&#8217; contracts these days, having been ripped off in the past. A contract is meant to indicate mutual agreement: if you don&#8217;t agree with that one then just change it till you do. They can only say no.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel Keslensky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel Keslensky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And here I almost felt like I should have signed up with Wowio in light of all the money they were making folks... this changes plenty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here I almost felt like I should have signed up with Wowio in light of all the money they were making folks&#8230; this changes plenty.</p>
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		<title>By: Wowi-Oh-no!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wowi-Oh-no!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coldplay, you&#039;re mistaken. In the contract &quot;publisher = YOU&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coldplay, you&#8217;re mistaken. In the contract &#8220;publisher = YOU&#8221;</p>
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