Stop the Paper Doll animation. It’s embarrassing.
Posted in Before Coffee, Comic Books, Work on 21. Oct, 2008
Almost along the same lines of yesterday’s thinking about why flash based webcomic players are bad for classic sequential art, there’s an uptick in the “motion” or “animated” comics. Where they take a classic sequential page, have a program like ToonBoom or flash and chop them up and move them around and add a voice cast. It often feels wonky and out of place, because it is. A rundown of my thoughts.
#1 It’s wonky and out of place. Much like me asking the question of WHY use a flash viewer to view webcomics, I ask, why do we need this? What is the point? It’s lazy content milking of classic sequential art. Wonky, because the movement is often bad and lazy (more on that later) and out of place because often the voice casting is terrible. Take the Watchmen moving comics on iTunes, Silk Spectre’s voice is a MAN. So she comes off as having a bad smokers throat at best. See, the thing is if you’re going to take a GREAT comic like Watchmen and then do something like that, you’ve just sort of dumbed the content down. You’ve probably made fans of the book throw up a little in their mouth.
#2 Stop calling it “animated”. Just because something moves around or tweens does not make it an animated cartoon. It’s a real insult to REAL animators. Why not hire them to do an animated series right!? Oh, that’s right, the comic book industry is notoriously low on cash to pay people what they’re worth. Seriously, calling this stuff “animation” or animated anything is an insult to animation. Ask John K. what “animation” is – A good example of just how wonky this is would be to tell you that i have
#3 Talking Paper Dolls - That’s pretty much what they’re doing. Fancy paper dolls. I want to see comic companies say, “Check out or PAPER DOLL THEATER version of Watchmen!”- Imagine if I told you that I had ACTION FIGURES, but then I whipped out cut-outs that you could dress or pose, like those old stick-up books back in the day. Hey, I mean, it’s the same, right!? You can totally play with them even though they don’t have articulation and stuff, and it’s SO cheap to make, we just cut out the shapes of the characters in different poses and VIOLA!!!! McFarlane Toys, eat your heart out, we’ve got PAPER FUCKING DOLLS!
#4 Why? - The only answer as to why do this is because it’s EASY. The stuff has already been drawn and colored by a team. It’s just sitting there waiting to be cut out! It makes sense from a weasily business perspective. But why not hire a small animation company to do it up right? I happen to know a guy who owns an animation place, they put out dvds and everything I hear… and guess what? He’s a webcomic dude. Comics like Least I can Do, PvP, Ctrl+Alt+Del and Looking for Group all have animation through them. I guess my point is I’d rather see something like “Secret Saturday’s” come out than the shaking paper dolls of something like Invincible.The answer to why is always MONEY. It’s easy because the content is there to chop up, and if you can trick a company or network into paying you for this content that’s not in demand, god bless you, but can’t we do BETTER? It’s a little embarrassing. The talking paper dolls.
#5 There is no demand – If people were beating down the doors for this type of crapola, then Platinum Studios would be rich by now off of these things. I saw somewhere that Watchmen said it was the “FIRST” animated comic, but wasn’t sure if they meant the first DC Comic, because Platinum have been experiementing for some time with paper doll animation. They even have their own player called “Splastk”. And yes, they even have a Hero By Night paper doll theater on there in 6 parts. (which they still need to pay me for) Right now it’s even sponsored by the HULK dvd, but nobody is making money off of it somehow. Go figure, huh??? I must admit, as a creator, it’s nice to have someone show you your sequential art moving around and talking in paper doll fashion, but my readers, the actual comic fans out there, they don’t give a rat’s ass. They see it for what it is, LAZY animation. Smoke and mirrors and paper dolls.
#6 You know the only people benefiting from this?
- Voice Actors
- Whoever is collecting that Ad money from the Hulk DVD on Splastk?\
Of course this is only my opinion here. Maybe there is a whole slew of people who LOVE these and clammor for more. I’ve never talked to a single comic fan like that though. Most of them when the topic comes up they sort get a “cringe” look on their face and make a sound like “meh.”– I guess there is something to be said for a paper doll theater version of INVINCIBLE (available on itunes) which isn’t half bad at all. But why do I think it’s different when I look at it? Is it because the paper dolls shake more and FLASH! Is it better voice acting or the animated word balloons that type across as the people are speaking for no apparent reason I can think of but to be built in closed caption for the deaf? — No, it’s probably because I’m just an Invincible fan. But even though I love the comic and own the hardcovers, I still haven’t watched a full episode of the “animated” series. The argument for that could be that this is targeted at non-comic readers, and may even, according to some reviews on itunes, bring more readers back to comics or bring first time readers back. My kids didn’t like it though. I use them as a litmus test sometimes. They’d rather run and watch “Secret Saturdays” — but heck, Kirkman gotz an MTV payday of some sort, but that’s not something to build a business model around, which I think he’d agree– it’s what they call in those circles “rarified air”
– He’s rare because his comics he’s adapting don’t suck. What about Watchmen though? THAT is a great book, but a pretty terrible paper doll theater. I guess we’ll only know if it was a huge success if we see more and more seasons available or produced.
I’m willing to concede that there is a way to do this RIGHT. We haven’t seen it yet though. Might I again suggest hiring ANIMATORS to actually animate?


that is a fundamental irony in the animation world. People only want to hire 3D animators these days so traditional 2D animation has become a bit of a relic of the past as far as people that hire for it. Another thing that bugs me with the as you call it “paper doll” trend: isn’t this just a rehash of early ’90s stuff? Wasn’t that type of animating a big deal back then? I vaguely remember seeing stuff like that early in the mass internet age and it was corny then as it is now. Then again, nostalgia usually does leave a bad taste for me.
Your entitled to your opinion but I think you are way off. You don’t understand the complexities of telling a story this way. Animation means a great many things. just because it isn’t Pixar or Disney style doesn’t make it bad… or not “real” animation. I don’t think “animated comics” is making a ton of money, but I think money is secondary to the marketing message. It is really being targeted to iPods and Cell phones. Its something pretty cool to watch that I can download to my phone while on a bus. I think we will see more of this type of work and it will get more and more compelling.
I don’t understand the complexities of telling a story this way? You and I will have to agree to disagree I suppose.
what complexities? Like I mentioned, I’m pretty sure this was campy when it appeared in the early 90’s and it still is now. It loses the impact that if it was purely animated or purely traditional comic format. It makes what should be a story into what feels more like a trailer for something else. Like DJ mentioned, it can work if it is done right. As it is now for most, it is not done right. As a format they need to find it’s inherent voice and emphasize that rather than try to imitate both mediums of animation and comics. It’s a lot like watching silent movie style shows in our current era. It’s one thing to move forward and find new ways of expressing a story, it’s quite the other when you are obviously just trying to squeeze every last dollar out of an IP that you can.
At least the Platinum ones don’t have the speech bubbles animating in (as in the Invincible trailer), I suppose. More than a trailer’s-worth of shaky text like that, and I think I’d get motion sickness.
The complexities come from having the same comic story told but loosing your ability of telling the story in a left to right fashion. I think the Invincible ones are pretty good for what they are. If you don’t have the word balloons then it would be difficult to tell who is speaking. Do they need to bounce around all the time? I probably would have done it differently but it isn’t that bad… It gives it some energy. You may not care for its style but as a creative solution it is a good one. It is a new way to tell a story. It is loads cheaper than doing high cell count animation (Like it or not this is animation… not a whole hell of a lot less animated than most Japanese Anime), and it isn’t a still frame sitting there. It doesn’t have to be from existing material either. Why can’t custom layered art be created so animation can be easier so you can have more of it? It is a new work opportunity for comic artists. Not to mention the sound, I work with some talented individuals who can create all kinds of music and sound effects that will make the hair on the back of your neck stand up. You don’t really get that by just reading the comics.